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Secret Flying Saucers - The Gateway to the StarsUFO's & Aliens

Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 (CDT) by Thoth

UFO - Flying SaucerOne of the most controversial and tantalising areas of ufology is that of the flying saucer phenomena. Over the last sixty years there have been literally thousands of reports of sightings of these craft, many of which are accompanied with photographic evidence. Despite the abundance of sightings, the origin and indeed authenticity of these craft remains unverified.

In addition, there have been numerous reports from as far as Siberia, Greece and the US of flying saucers having crash-landed. Although information concerning the crashes is slowly being filtered into the public domain, researchers have yet to obtain any physical evidence to validate what has happened; as soon as an event occurs a well-rehearsed operation is launched to remove any and all traces of the incident.

Often witnesses are threatened and any photographs of the crash site confiscated, ensuring that the event can never be verified as having occurred but more importantly, no analysis of the craft can take place.


There is never any proof that a crash happened; all that remains is rumour and speculation, but is that underground rumour mill what the powers that be want to create?

Lines of thought

UFO - Ticul, Mexico (12-12-2004)We naturally imagine that these crash sites involve crafts of extraterrestrial origin. Taken at face value this is a logical assumption considering we are talking about flying saucers and our conventional aircraft tend to be winged. Of course, this theory works on the understanding that we humans don’t have flying saucers of our own. The theory also relies on the unlikely scenario that extraterrestrials can manage to safely navigate their craft across the vastness of the solar system yet experience serious difficulty controlling their vehicle in our atmosphere.

An alternative theory suggests that rather than being of extraterrestrial origin, these crash sites may by linked to top-secret military projects, funded by a black budget and known about by only a tight circle of research personnel based in the US. The fact is, flying saucers have been a military reality for the last sixty years, and the only way to test them is to fly them, so when we see a photograph of a flying saucer or hear about a crash site maybe the first thing to wonder is, is it one of ours or not?

Weighing up the Facts - Roswell

Roswell UFO - ConspiracyA combination of photographic records and research papers provide solid evidence that military research into flying saucers has been ongoing since the 1940’s. This research was first conducted by the German government, which allocated extensive resources to their flying saucer program and was transferred to the US after World War II.

Is it coincidence that within two years of Germany’s research being seized by the US that the Roswell crash occurred in New Mexico? It certainly seems plausible that Roswell may have been the result of the disastrous test flight conducted by the US Air Force on a prototype based on Germany’s scientific research into flying saucers. In many ways this makes much more sense than it being an extraterrestrial craft that had experienced a catastrophic technical failure. This explanation would account for the mixed response from the military investigators at the time. Major Jesse Marcel first announced that it was a flying saucer that had crashed based on the information he had been given (Marcel would have had no way of knowing about this top secret project to make our own flying saucers). This official story quickly changed, with military spokesmen soon claiming it was simply a weather balloon that had come down. It’s very difficult to imagine any circumstances where a weather balloon could be confused with a crashed flying saucer, yet if we believe the US military, that’s what happened. Understandably, very few researchers accepted the revised official explanation and the myth and legend of Roswell was born.

Bodies of evidence – and Evidence of bodies

UFO Crash - IllustrationOne of the claims that surround Roswell is that several alien bodies were recovered from the crash site and taken to a nearby air force base. This is a claim that has never been completely substantiated, it may be true or it could just be part of the urban legend that surrounds Roswell. If the crash was the result of a failed test flight, then it’s possible that the small alien bodies that some witnesses claimed to have seen were in fact primates that had either been sedated or had died during the test flight. While the idea might sound far fetched, primates were often used by the military to test the conditions encountered in flight, particularly in relation to the space programme. If the primates had been wearing protective suits then misidentification could easily have occurred under the circumstances.

There is certainly testimony from both expert witnesses and eyewitnesses to suggest that the wreckage from Roswell is of military origin rather than extraterrestrial. Physics Professor Charles Moore for example claimed that the debris was from a 600 foot long balloon that he had launched several days earlier. Other witnesses recall seeing crash debris in a dumper on the base that they said appeared to be terrestrial in origin, some even stating that it did indeed look like a damaged weather balloon. Exactly what was in the dumper is unknown, but we can safely assume that an alien or military craft wouldn’t have ended up there. Its impossible to prove or disprove Moore’s claim now, but if it was a relatively innocent experiment then one wonders why more details weren’t made public at the time. It’s also possible that either the witnesses were mistaken, or the debris was planted there by the military in a deliberate attempt to cause confusion, and thus divert attention from what really crashed that day.

Whether the Roswell incident was caused by a failed flying saucer test flight or by a downed alien craft, no one can say for certain, but if either theory is true it is something that the military would want to conceal from the public. By introducing the possibility of a logical explanation in the weather balloon response, investigators suddenly became torn between two possibilities, that it was a crashed alien flying saucer or that it was a perfectly normal weather balloon. The third possibility, that of it being a crashed military flying saucer simply didn’t factor as an option for many years.

The Disinformation Machine

Man-made Flying SaucerBy cultivating a climate of secrecy and disinformation, the world’s governments give credence to the scenario of crashed flying saucers being UFOs, which they then go to great lengths to deny. These mixed messages are a mechanism designed to create confusion, and as we know, it usually succeeds. It seems increasingly likely that the military often uses UFOs as a smokescreen to disguise their covert research into anti gravity and flying saucer technology. There are obvious advantages of hiding behind a UFO scenario: the media circus, heated debates between sceptics and believers, additional input from hoaxers who want their five minutes of fame and the fallibility of people’s memories, not to mention witnesses tendency to exaggerate or elaborate, filling in the blanks with their own assumptions. At times, the UFO community can offer a unique distraction that the military are only too keen to exploit; it enables them to hide the truth in plain sight.

Why?

Bob LazarWe know without any shadow of a doubt that scientists began developing flying saucers in the 1930’s and 40’s. Witnesses such as physicist Bob Lazar who worked at a facility called Area S-4 at Papoose Dry Lake which is just south of the infamous Area 51, in late 1988 and early 1989, state that the complex houses nine disc shaped craft. These two facts suggest a continued development programme that has spanned six decades, but why? What drives our governments to invest billions in black budget projects to develop this technology? After more than 60 years of top-secret development, we still don’t know why so much time and money is being invested in this anti gravity technology the way it is, in fact, officially, we don’t even know that we have flying saucers.

Flying saucers are unlikely to offer the military an obvious strategic advantage that would justify such a long-term investment but there is a lot of evidence to suggest that this ambitious project is very real. If Bob Lazar was correct when he stated that there were several different types of flying saucers being worked on in Area 51, that suggests that base houses a series of prototypes. These craft could be of extraterrestrial origin but it is highly unlikely that so many different UFO’s would travel across the solar system only to crash land on Earth, especially in such a way that the craft remained intact. That leaves us with two possibilities, either we are in possession of extraterrestrial craft that may have been provided to us as ‘working models’ by beings from another world who are cooperating with certain factions of the world government, or that we are developing our own craft based on either reversed engineered alien technology or a knowledge base from our own scientific minds. The question really, isn’t ‘do we have flying saucers?’ rather what we should be asking is ‘Where did the technology to build them come from?’

A Shadow Space Programme

NASAMany are beginning to question if there are actually two space programmes that run parallel to each other, one, a public relations front that we know as NASA and the other a covert project intended to develop a technology that will one day take us into deep space. This technology could potentially harness theoretical physics concepts such as inter dimensional travel and wormholes. If the motivation behind such a venture is genuine then why is it such a huge secret after all this time? The public face of the space program, NASA, is apparently open about its ambitions with regard to space exploration, so why would there be a need for a shadow organisation that is not?

The only logical explanation for the continued secrecy lies in the fact that these ventures could be either joint projects undertaken with extraterrestrial cooperation or that they are based on extraterrestrial technology that has been reverse engineered. Our governments and the military may well have had a helping hand in developing the technology that they work with behind closed doors. NASA appears to be at the forefront of space research, but is NASA itself yet another diversion; a front designed to divert our attention from the covert activities of the ultra top secret, shadow space program, one that may well be working with extraterrestrials.

Star Fleet

UFO - Flying SaucerThe flying saucers that have been photographed across the world for the last 60 years, some of which we know have crashed and have been recovered by the military, may well be evidence of our attempts to visit other worlds as much as they are other worlds attempting to visit us.

According to unverified reports from the Project Serpo website, Earth already has a space fleet which consists of eight mother ships and over forty space planes which protect the fleet. This project, codenamed Solar Warden is said to be a multi-national initiative that involves many of the world’s governments. The scenario sounds like something from a science fiction movie until you consider our efforts to develop flying saucers, the thousands of sightings and the occasional report of a crash landing, at which point you begin to wonder if the ‘fiction’ is actually based on science fact. In the absence of any absolute evidence, it seems that only time will reveal the answers.


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Re: Secret Flying Saucers - The Gateway to the Stars
by ufo1953 on Friday, June 23, 2006 (CDT)
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The attached article - 'The case of the flying saucers' is well out of date.

Quoting Manly Palmer Hall - "The reports of jet-powered rockets...over Sweden and other Scandinavian Countries several years ago" shows this report was written in the early Fifties, as those events occured from July 9, 1946 at Lake Barken, Sweden to May, 1947 at Spitzbergen,Sweden.

Today with the Internet everybody is much wiser that UFOs exist.



Re: Secret Flying Saucers - The Gateway to the Stars (Score: 1)
by Isis on Friday, June 23, 2006 (CDT)
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LOL yes that's true but Manly P Hall's The Secret Teachings of all ages is still a classic text (The full book is in the e-book library actually) So its relevant from a historical perspective. Its always wise to look at the bigger picture, sometimes you find relevance there that would otherwise have been missed.

Have you watched the videos yet?


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Re: Secret Flying Saucers - The Gateway to the Stars
by artberry on Friday, June 23, 2006 (CDT)
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I think the fundamental problem is anti-gravity technology and the ability to go anywhere in space, if such technology exists is tat it is the key to access unlimited wealth, free energy and practically unlimited resources. It basically means we become like gods.

Of course if individuals had access to all this it would mean the total collapse of economic and political structures as we know them. It would mean the world would become practically ungovernable.

There may therefore be reasons why governments withhold this knowledge since the change would be monumental.

However it may also be that we are governed by some form of ET governing body which prevents us from accessing these things. A bit like the flashing sword that was set up at the gates of Eden so Adam and Eve couldn't access the tree of life and become like gods.



Re: Secret Flying Saucers - The Gateway to the Stars (Score: 1)
by ian on Saturday, June 24, 2006 (CDT)
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The world would change as it is constantly. The invention of the steam engine did not cause economic collapse far from it. I think the really of et is surpressed because we would become one people in the face of the galaxtic 'other'. we would be human, not African, Swedish. The petty hates/differences would become meaningless. Those who profit from the current situation of practically constant war/famine etc. are I feel behind things. They( who ever they are) want to shrink us down to pieces of transient meat to control us? what interests me is why? it cant simply be about £$'s bush &Co are old men and as they say you cant take it with you when you go....So whats in it for them????


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Re: Secret Flying Saucers - The Gateway to the Stars (Score: 1)
by on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 (CDT)
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In the early 1920's researcher Thomas T. Brown conducted experiments whith free energy. His research was based on a law of fysics, that states that "a charged condensator wants to get closer to the positive pole of an electro-magnetic field". He found out that this worked particularly good if the set-up was placed in a disc-shaped object. But his research wasn't taken serious by other scientists, so his findings remained largely unknown by the public.


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Re: Secret Flying Saucers - The Gateway to the Stars
by blue on Saturday, June 24, 2006 (CDT)
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There’s more evidence for UFOs and Aliens then there is for a god?
Trying to piece together a theory from Bob Laser, Roswell and narrowing it down to just
two possibility’s is a little supercilious don’t you think Thoth?

What do I know I’m just a bug….



Re: Secret Flying Saucers - The Gateway to the Stars (Score: 1)
by Isis on Saturday, June 24, 2006 (CDT)
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Well there aren't a whole lot of other options when it comes to Roswell, I mentioned the big 3 in the article (I wrote the article) - weather balloons, ET's and manade flying saucers - can you elaborate on the others for me Blue please.

The crux of the article was to suggest that we have been developing flying saucers for many years, Roswell was just a well document event that illustrated what happens when a flying saucer crashes in terms of cover ups, facts getting distorted etc etc.

Isis


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Re: Secret Flying Saucers - The Gateway to the Stars
by qraal on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 (CDT)
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Hi Thoth

Of course "Star Gate" is a way of putting out the truth into public consciousness to gauge the ultimate revelation's effects. A real 'Star Fleet' or 'SG1' force, bravely protecting our planet breeds the 'right' kind of patriotism. That humans are treated like domestic animals by alien 'gods' produces the right sort of resentment against the aliens and warm feelings for our terrestrial masters, should be obvious and viewed with suspicion by all who oppose the NWO.



Re: Secret Flying Saucers - The Gateway to the Stars
by Dexter on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 (CDT)
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In the 1950's and '60's Canada was conducting it's own research program to build flying discs. They managed to build one or two prototypes, but the program was stopped after the canadian researchers were threatend by american officials. Nobody knows what became of the canadian prototypes. Some say they were dismantled, while others say these craft were taken to an american base.


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