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Egyptologist Discovers Ancient GossipAncient History

Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2005 (CDT) by Thoth

Egyptians like these depicted on an arched steele enjoyed a bit of gossip about royals and other important people, according to a noted Egyptologist.Ancient Egyptians gossiped about a bald queen, royals who had affairs, missing bodies, homosexuality, harem intrigue and more, according to a noted Egyptologist.

Lisa Schwappach-Shirriff, curator of California's Rosicrucian Egyptian Museum, which houses North America's largest collection of Egyptian artifacts, recently found evidence for tabloid-like gossip in the museum's eclectic archives and elsewhere. The findings suggest humans always have enjoyed chatting about personal or sensational information concerning others.

They also reveal what officials communicated through their official artwork and hieroglyphics.


"The ancient Egyptians believed that anything written down became magically true, so even if something was true, if it was unpleasant, it was usually not written," said Schwappach-Shirriff, who recently presented her findings at the museum, which is celebrating its 75th anniversary.

She added, "That is what makes it so interesting when you find out small details of what we would consider gossip."

As an example, she explained that a text from around 5,000 years ago described how an unnamed king frequently visited one of his general's houses at night. The text repeats the phrase, "in whose home there was no wife," suggesting that the king was having a homosexual affair.

"Did that mean the Egyptians were anti-homosexual in their opinions? Maybe not," Schwappach-Shirriff told Discovery News. "The problem could have been that the general was not fulfilling his social duties by producing an heir from a wife."

Andre Dollinger, another Egyptologist who has published many works on Egyptian history and culture, suggested people also gossiped about royals who partied too much.

"A drawing on limestone shows a king with what seems to be a six o'clock shadow, looking much the worse for wear," Dollinger said.

Schwappach-Shirriff said a more visual form of gossip was discovered near the temple of Queen Hatshepsut. She declared herself king and had a close relationship with an advisor named Senenmut.

"How close is a matter of conjecture, but it is clear that the workmen who were building the temple thought that it was very close," she said. "A graffito was discovered depicting a distinctly feminine 'king' in a compromising position with a non-royal individual. Since this was found at a construction worker's rest area at the site, you can imagine them giggling to themselves over lunch."

Other writings and evidence suggest grave workers often lost bodies and did not always report the mistakes. The tomb of Queen Hetepheres, for example, was discovered intact but contained no body. It is possible, Schwappach-Shirriff said, that "her body was lost and no one wanted to tell the king."

Although few texts from Egyptian harems exist, court records suggest the women often secretly chatted about how they could get their sons to be the next king. In an extreme plot, Ramses III was murdered by his wives, who later were prosecuted along with construction workers that had listened in on conversations.

Schwappach-Shirriff said, "People gossip about what is interesting to them, both in ancient times and modern. One of the best ways to learn what a people was really like, what the average person really considered proper behavior, is to look at what they gossiped about."

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Re: Egyptologist Discovers Ancient Gossip
by gaias-child on Saturday, August 13, 2005 (CDT)
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I love this stuff, gossip about a bald queen, Hatsepsut and Senemut. The ancients werent very different from us were they?


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