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Uncovering the big UFO cover-up
Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 (CDT) by Thoth
 Dr Steven Greer, a physician and former Chairman of the Department of Emergency Medicine at Caldwell Memorial Hospital in North Carolina, USA, is widely considered an authority on UFO and extraterrestrial phenomena. In 1991 he founded CSETI (the Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence) as a "world-wide organization dedicated to establishing peaceful and sustainable relations with extraterrestrial life forms."
As part of CSETI, Greer subsequently founded Project Starlight, an attempt to uncover the best scientific evidence regarding UFOs.
Since 1993, Greer and other Project Starlight members have provided preliminary briefings on the UFO phenomenon for the US White House staff, a sitting director of the US Central Intelligence Agency, senior military leaders, senior UN leadership, members of the US Senate and House of Representatives, international leaders, and leaders in foreign governments.
Greer has
placed particular emphasis on "identifying military, intelligence,
government contractor and other government agency employees with
direct, first-hand knowledge of the UFO/ET subject." Greer says he has
found 107 such government witnesses. In April of this year, 15 of these
witnesses testified in CSETI-sponsored briefings held in Washington,
DC. Among those in attendance were representatives of more than two
dozen US Congressional offices, VIPs from the Executive branch of
government and the Pentagon, representatives of the Dutch Embassy, the
National Academy of Sciences, and two state Governors' offices. Major
print and broadcast media representatives attended a separate briefing.
Participants received numerous government and military documents
related to UFOs, as well as a video and photographic summary tape of
UFO footage.
All the US government
witnesses who were present signed a statement that they are willing to
testify under oath before an open hearing in the US Congress concerning
the UFO/ET projects and events that they personally witnessed. Dr Greer
called for government-sponsored public hearings on the UFO issue,
leading to a full public disclosure on the subject.
In the following interview,
Dr Greer discusses some of the possible implications of holding such
public hearings, including the potentially embarrassing revelation that
certain elements of the "military-industrial" complex worldwide have
covered up the existence of UFOs for the past half century.
Share International: What has happened since the Washington DC briefings in April?
Dr Steven Greer: Since
then, we have been following up with senior staff and members of
Congress, including several committee chairpeople of relevant
committees, to negotiate having an open hearing.
What happened in April
caused quite a stir — saying it stirred up a hornets' nest might be an
understatement. People who were present at the private briefing that
CSETI conducted for members of Congress, the White House staff and
others were somewhat horrified, I think is the word that was used, to
hear top-secret witnesses who have dealt first-hand with unambiguous
events such as daylight chases of UFOs involving both satellite
tracking and Space Command tracking with extraordinary pursuits and
attempts to shoot down the objects back in the 1980s. We had witnesses
with top-secret clearances and very sensitive positions, from the Air
Force, Navy and Army.
We've taken a very bold
step here by identifying definitive evidence related to UFOs and then
presenting this to key members of the political and military
establishment in the United States, as well as at the United Nations
and elsewhere. It has caused not only a tremendous amount of interest,
but a lot of concern over something which can only be described as the
probable extra-constitutional management of the subject.
SI: What do you mean by 'extra-constitutional management of the subject'?
SG: There are top-secret
projects that are in the black area, so-called 'black projects', and
then there are the ultra-black ones. This falls into the really
ultra-black area of USAPs, Unacknowledged Special Access Projects. Even
if someone senior in the chain of command makes an inquiry about them,
they will be told very specifically that the project doesn't exist.
This is up to and including the White House and the Joint Chiefs [of
Staff at the Pentagon] levels.
The best example that has
been reported in the public media so far, in the New York Times and the
Washington Post, has been the Senate Intelligence Committee confronting
the National Reconnaissance Office with the fact that they were
building a $300 million office building that had never been authorized
by Congress or the White House, and that they had set up a $1.7
thousand million slush fund that no one had authorized.
You have several dynamic
issues here: there's the extraterrestrial phenomenon itself; there's
the covert program dealing with it; and then the disconnection between
the covert management of it and the legal and constitutional
government, which has largely been left out of the loop on this. This
becomes a very complex problem to resolve, and that's why it has taken
so much work, not only on my part, but on the part of hundreds of
people with whom I'm working, to try to resolve this crisis.
SI: Are you saying that,
since the late 1940s or 50s, the US Government has known about the UFO
phenomenon and has tried to keep that information away from the public
in a conscious way?
SG: Well, yes and no. And
the reason I have to say yes and no is that you must define 'US
Government'. The group that I referred to, which has been called MJ-12,
or Majestic 12, and alternately PI-40 (I don't know what that stands
for), should not be confused with the US Government. For example, I
spent nearly three hours briefing a sitting director of Central
Intelligence, a CIA director, about this because he couldn't find out
anything on the subject. So when someone says 'the US Government' is
holding back information, what they have to understand is that 'the US
Government' and 99.9 per cent of the people in it have no knowledge of
this subject. I'm referring to relevant members of the Senate
Intelligence Committee that I briefed, relevant members of the White
House staff and the CIA, and very relevant senior members of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff.
The questions then become:
who is managing this and how is it being managed? These questions cause
the most disturbed reaction in people in public life when they find out
that there is an organization that exists which is largely based in the
private sector with significant representation within the military and
intelligence community, which essentially behaves independently of
normal checks and balances that are necessary if you're going to have
anything pretending to be a democracy.
SI: Are some of the
witnesses that you have spoken with actually members or former members
of this covert group that has been covering up the UFO story?
SG: Yes.
SI: Why are they coming forward now?
SG: This gets very complex.
The US Government, as you and I think of it, and other governments,
don't know about this subject 99 per cent of the time. The elements
that do know about it work closely with large high-tech aerospace firms
that do a lot of contracting with the US Government. Among those within
that group, there is no unanimity on how to handle this issue. Because
of what we have been doing, there are a number of them who feel that
the time has come for disclosure on this. About one-third of the
elements within MJ-12 feel that way. But there is still a majority,
particularly the older members, who want to keep this quiet at least
until after they have died. So even within that group it's not
monolithic.
This is why it is so
difficult for the subject to be brought out, because it's not just a
matter of saying to the public: 'We're not alone and there are
extraterrestrials out there.' And by the way, there's not a scintilla
of evidence that these ETs are hostile, notwithstanding the rantings of
the UFO community and the science fiction buffs. The issue is much more
complex because it deals with hugely vested, powerful interests that
are desperate to keep this thing quiet for as long as they can because
of the economic, social, technological, geopolitical, and other
implications of a disclosure.
SI: How many people do you estimate are involved in this covert group?
SG: There are probably 200
or 300 who really know what's going on, but only a couple of dozen who
are key to the operation, and I know who a few of those people are.
SI: Would you describe them
as oil company executives, or aerospace executives, or military people?
How would you describe them in a general sense?
SG: All of the above, and
not necessarily the obvious suspects, by the way. I'll give you an
example. After I met with the Director of Central Intelligence, I went
to a southwestern city in the US, which is probably all I should say,
and met with a member of MJ-12 who was quite interested in what we were
doing. They were quite horrified, I think, in the sense that we were
not only determined but successful in what we set out to do. He turned
to me, around a huge conference table in this mansion — this is a man
who is a very high-tech figure and a genius and very much involved in
super-computers and other things — and said: "You really don't need to
be talking to the CIA Director about this because he doesn't know
anything about this and he's not going to know anything about it. If I
were you, I'd be talking to people like me, people who are involved in
doing a lot of high-tech work, covertly, for contractors to the US
Government. I would be talking to certain heads of think-tanks; I would
be talking to certain people who are concerned about the religious
implications of this, and certain religious orders." He gave me a very
specific litany, and at the time I thought this man must be crazy. It
turned out he was 100 per cent correct. It was very hard for me to
accept this. It's much harder for someone on the Senate Intelligence
Committee or the Joint Chiefs of Staff to accept that this is how this
is being managed.
I'll give you another
example. I had a two-hour meeting with a former Head of the Ministry of
Defence in the UK, and the only living five-star admiral in the world,
Lord Hill-Norton, who is in the House of Lords. A couple of years ago
he and I discussed this at great length. He told me: "I know now that
these UFOs are real, that there are extraterrestrial life forms, but I
never knew it as a member of the British Government or as a member of
the admiralty." I looked at him and said: "This is strange." He said:
"I assure you that this subject never ever crossed my radar screen." He
told me this, and there was no prevarication or deceit at all; he was
being completely forthcoming, as was the CIA Director, and they both
basically told me the same story.
They could never find
anything out about the subject. In fact they didn't even think to look
into it because they never thought it was real. Lord Hill-Norton told
me very specifically that he now has no doubt these projects exist. He
and I have compared notes and shared data and we've reached this
assessment: that the only way that could be possible is if it were
being managed in a process parallel to conventional military and
political governmental activity.
I got a very similar
picture from a sitting CIA Director and from a head of state in Europe
that I've met with. This is not to say that there has never been a CIA
director that knew. I know that there are. Or that there has never been
a president who knew some of the information. But I'm quite convinced
that they're told only what the control apparatus in this issue wants
them to know, and I think a great deal of it has been dis-information.
Unfortunately, the UFO
community and the media have taken this disinformation, hook, line and
sinker. They have not asked the hard questions such as when there is an
account of a cattle mutilation or a so-called abduction, who's really
behind it? Is it the ETs? Almost never. Is it more likely psychological
warfare experts staging these sort of events? Yes. And we know that, we
have no question that that's going on.
Media involvement
SI: Do you think any heads of media corporations might be involved with this?
SG: I certainly think there
are control points that are likely within various media. I used to
think not, but there have been certain things that have happened that
make me very suspicious of that. I think, though, that people go too
far with these kinds of conspiracy ideas. You psychologically condition
the media to dismiss the subject. You discredit it, you set up hoaxes
that can be exposed, you set up people who are complete charlatans. You
put out information from scientists who will stand up and say this is
all poppycock, so that the mainstream media, rather than doing true
independent journalism, go along with whatever the status quo is
because they want to be 'in'.
I myself was approached by
a very senior military intelligence figure and told that, if I would
work with them and merge my operation with them, they would give us
unlimited access to whatever we wanted. But of course then you sell out
to that, and that's something we have refused to do. It's not to say
that there aren't people who have done so.
SI: Another point is that the media are owned by large corporations that tend to be very conservative.
SG: You question how
independent CBS can be if they are owned by a conglomerate, or how
independent NBC can be if they are owned by General Electric, a big
defense operator.
Another problem is the
attitude the media come to the subject with. I cannot tell you how many
puffed-up scientists and journalists and people who consider themselves
know-it-alls have said: 'This has to be poppycock, because if it
weren't, I would know about it because I'm so important.' Moreover,
many mainstream journalists bring to it the years of ridicule and
debunking, as well as the fact that the predominant feeling out there
is that most of these accounts are rubbish, and they're not incorrect
in that regard. In that sense I have a lot of sympathy for the media,
because I've gone to hundreds of gatherings and UFO meetings and I
would say 90 to 99 per cent of everything I hear and see is utter and
complete rubbish. So a journalist could be forgiven for thinking that
all of it was. That's a mistake, but it's something that is
nevertheless understandable.
That said, I'd say that the
media people who were at the background briefing we did in Washington
were very interested, and there were some good and serious stories that
came out of it.
SI: Is there a single person who heads this covert group, and is it international?
SG: Yes, it's
international, no doubt about that. I seriously doubt that there's one
individual that heads it. There may be a rotating chair of it, but I do
know that there are a number of people involved that would be in the
policymaking direction.
SI: How many countries do you think are involved?
SG: More than a few and
less than all. I can't give you an exact number. I would say there's
representation that's very large and extends from religious entities to
corporate to financial to military intelligence. I can say that the
major industrial powers certainly have entities that are involved with
this. However, that doesn't mean, for example, the UK Prime Minister
knows, or that the Ministry of Defence in the UK knows, not by any
stretch of the imagination.
I do want to say here on
the record that a number of people in the military and intelligence
communities are some of our biggest supporters for getting this
information out. They are honest, upright men and women who really want
this issue to get resolved. They understand how dangerous it is to our
way of life to have something this powerful managed in an ultra-secret
and probably illegal way.
Public hearings or private efforts
SI: Are there any indications that a public hearing might be called? And if not, what will you do?
SG: I'm very concerned
that, because of the implications of this and the way the subject can
be either debunked or quietly silenced by power operators, we may not
get a hearing. I am hopeful, though. There are some very good people in
Congress and very good former members of Congress helping us who really
do understand the implications of this.
But should it not happen,
then we have to be prepared as a non-profit research group to put
together all of these top-secret witnesses and all the evidence and
present it to the public through documentaries, books, and a public
press conference so that the subject gets out in an unofficial way. If
it isn't done scientifically in a very dignified way, then it simply
will not register on the radar scope of the world, and all these
top-secret witnesses will be literally risking their lives and careers
for nothing.
It wouldn't be easy to do.
We have no operating funds. The extent of our staff is someone who
comes in 10 hours a week to help with office work and the rest of it is
totally volunteer. All of us are taking time away from our families,
our work, and our careers.
I can honestly say that we
have the physical evidence, photographic evidence, government
documents, and more than 100 top-secret military and intelligence
witnesses — which, if they could be put together and presented to the
public, would constitute a definitive and unambiguous disclosure on
this subject. The problem is we don't have the financial means to do
it, and if the US Government, through a hearing in the Congress,
doesn't allow a vehicle such as that to be created that would have it
come out in an official way, then it becomes a very serious problem of
how we go about doing it.
Witnesses
Among the witnesses
testifying in Washington DC were Donna Hare, a former subcontractor in
the photo labs of the Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas. Hare said
she saw one NASA technician air-brush a UFO out of a space satellite
photo, and that "it was done routinely," according to her colleague.
Stephen Lovekin, a lawyer from North Carolina who worked as a trained
cryptologist with a Top Secret security clearance in the Pentagon
during President Eisenhower's White House term in the 1950s, says he
saw material from a downed ET craft and saw apparent ET writing on the
material. Lovekin says the President was regularly briefed about the
UFO issue.
Another witness was a
world-renowned astronomer who was present when an apparent
extraterrestrial signal was received at the Harvard observatory (SETI)
facility. (Source: CSETI)
Close encounter
Irish Air Lingus has no
explanation for an incident in which one of its passenger jets had a
close encounter with a flying object 9,000 feet over Hertfordshire.
Both pilots of the plane reported seeing a red, blue and white striped
aircraft pass close by on 7 June. But inquiries have failed to find any
trace of another plane in the area. An aircraft proximity team said it
was sure that the object had not been an aeroplane. (Source: BBC Ceefax)
Indigenous people and UFO's
Morgan Eaglebear is a
Chiracahua Apache and the great great grandson of famous Apache leader,
Geronimo. In an interview with Contact Forum, a US publication, Morgan
Eaglebear was asked how indigenous people view the phenomenon. He
replied: "The indigenous people, the monks, the Tibetans, the Dalai
Lama, all know about the star beings. To the indigenous people, there
are no questions or problems. We know the ETs are there, and know that
it is time for us to prepare to meet them.
"The indigenous peoples
believe that, first, we have to unify. If we kill each other because
we're terrified and frightened of each other and live just a couple of
mountain ranges away, how can we deal with an intelligence which has
the capability of traveling, folding time, being here in a split
second, and which is watching us and being here? If we can't make peace
between ourselves, we're going to have a very difficult time when they
do arrive... They are 'the Watchers and the Takers and the Ones Who
Walk Among Us' (native names for the ETs) ... "The fact is that they're
going to start interceding and working in order to bring the balance of
the Earth back, and we're not doing it. We're sitting in our rocking
chairs, watching the television, saying: 'Isn't what's happening over
there terrible?' rather than getting off our behinds, going over,
filling sandbags and helping our brothers and sisters."
(Reprinted with permission
of Blue Water Publishing, Inc., publishers of Contact Forum: The
Roundtable of Universal Communication; PO Box 190, Mill Spring, NC
28756, USA.)
UFO crash anniversary receives attention
The 50th anniversary of the
crash of a UFO near Roswell, New Mexico, received unprecedented media
attention in the US. Print and broadcast media, including the New York
Times, Time magazine, and all the major television networks, featured
prominent stories on Roswell and related UFO phenomena. The attitudes
reflected in the media coverage ranged from scepticism and ridicule to
balanced analysis and commentary.
In the midst of the media
focus on Roswell, the US Air Force released its official and 'final'
version of what took place there 50 years ago. They claimed that a
secret test balloon, not a UFO, fell from the sky and crashed near
Roswell, and that the extraterrestrial bodies that witnesses reported
seeing at the time were actually test dummies dropped from the sky in
parachute-impact experiments. One obvious discrepancy in the report was
that the experiments with dummies occurred between 1953 and 1959, well
after the crash.
Time Magazine reported on a
poll indicating that 34 per cent of Americans believe intelligent
beings from other planets have visited Earth. Of those: 65 per cent
believe a UFO crash-landed near Roswell, and 80 per cent believe the US
Government knows more about extraterrestrials than it has thus far
revealed. The New York Times quoted another poll indicating that 42 per
cent of American college graduates believe that flying saucers have
visited the Earth in some form. A similar survey conducted two decades
ago found that only 30 per cent of college graduates believed in UFOs.
Brandeis University
anthropology professor Benson Saler summed up the common wisdom about
extraterrestrials this way, according to the New York Times: "We know
what they look like — they're tall and slender with huge heads and
almond eyes. And the hope is that these beings with superior technology
will enter into communion with us and help solve our problems."
The New York Times article
ended this way: "But even as science relentlessly unravels life's
greatest mysteries, it may be hard to dispel the popular belief in
superior technological beings — whose very existence is beyond the
means of our own scientists to verify or debunk." (Sources: New York
Times; Time Magazine; San Francisco Chronicle, USA)
More Information: http://www.cseti.org
Article Source
Related Article: UFOs: Biggest Cover-up in History
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